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	<description>The blog of a woman who supports the Women's Liberation Movement and who opposes pornography &#38; sexual exploitation</description>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://supporterofwomensliberation.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/burning-times-documentary-on-witch-hunts/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just came across your blog and it looks very good.  In the USA many women who were considered witches were women who had feminist ideas i.e. women who believed in the liberation of women and girls from male domination.  This was considered a huge threat to the straight white male dominated society.  So these sexist oppressors declared these women to be witches and had them burnt, thus feminism was oppressed.  

 

Today feminists still get called witches amongst other words such as Feminazi, bitch, man-hater and some I cannot bring myself to type.  It seems not much has changed.  However instead of gettin depresed, this should encourage feminists to be more radical in their attempts to destroy male supremacy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across your blog and it looks very good.  In the USA many women who were considered witches were women who had feminist ideas i.e. women who believed in the liberation of women and girls from male domination.  This was considered a huge threat to the straight white male dominated society.  So these sexist oppressors declared these women to be witches and had them burnt, thus feminism was oppressed.  </p>
<p>Today feminists still get called witches amongst other words such as Feminazi, bitch, man-hater and some I cannot bring myself to type.  It seems not much has changed.  However instead of gettin depresed, this should encourage feminists to be more radical in their attempts to destroy male supremacy</p>
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		<title>By: morgan kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[morgan kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am 16 and praticing to be a wiccan/witch .
I believe in magic and do you have any advice for me? Im learning about &quot;The Burning Times&quot; right now .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 16 and praticing to be a wiccan/witch .<br />
I believe in magic and do you have any advice for me? Im learning about &#8220;The Burning Times&#8221; right now .</p>
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		<title>By: qgnikkijamesa8</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing site yours sincerely, Gisele Daddea]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing site yours sincerely, Gisele Daddea</p>
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		<title>By: Cialis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cialis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[8TOANf Thank you for the material. Do you mind if I posted it in her blog, of course, with reference to your site?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8TOANf Thank you for the material. Do you mind if I posted it in her blog, of course, with reference to your site?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Why exactly has European scholarship and the mainstream conception of “our” history erased the witch-hunt?&lt;/i&gt;

History is written by those who win. And the patriarchs who persecuted the witches and/or who supported witch-hunts are the ones who won that war against women and are the ones who wrote history.

Also, womyn&#039;s herstory is being constantly erased...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why exactly has European scholarship and the mainstream conception of “our” history erased the witch-hunt?</i></p>
<p>History is written by those who win. And the patriarchs who persecuted the witches and/or who supported witch-hunts are the ones who won that war against women and are the ones who wrote history.</p>
<p>Also, womyn&#8217;s herstory is being constantly erased&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leanna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maggie,

I asked this same question in another section of your website and then realized that perhaps this page would be best to post this question on.  So I apologize for the repetition. 

I watched The Burning Times Documentary and I am still somewhat confused on something. Why exactly has European scholarship and the mainstream conception of “our” history erased the witch-hunt?

Thanks!

Leanna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie,</p>
<p>I asked this same question in another section of your website and then realized that perhaps this page would be best to post this question on.  So I apologize for the repetition. </p>
<p>I watched The Burning Times Documentary and I am still somewhat confused on something. Why exactly has European scholarship and the mainstream conception of “our” history erased the witch-hunt?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Leanna</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I don’t know, some of them have merit. Medical science has been pretty nice to us recently.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry, Sadi, while it is important to have somewhere to go when we&#039;re ill, it is important to not forget that:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We have not been passive bystanders in the history of medicine. The present system was born in and shaped by the competition between male and female healers. The medical profession in particular is not just another institution which happens to discriminate against us: it is a fortress designed and erected to exclude us. This means to us that the sexism of the health system is not incidental, not just the reflection of the sexism of society in general or the sexism of individual doctors. It is historically older than medical science itself; it is deep-rooted, institutional sexism. . . Men maintain their power in the health system through their monopoly of scientific knowledge.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;~ Barbara Ehrenreich &amp; Deirdre English, in &lt;i&gt;Witches, Midwives and Nurses: A History of Women Healers&lt;/i&gt;



Women have always been healers, and medicine has always been an arena of struggle between female lay practitioners and male professionals. Ehrenreich &amp; English&#039;s book (I just quoted from) explores two important phases in the male takeover of health care: the suppression of &#039;witches&#039; in medieval Europe and the rise of the male medical profession in the Western world.

There are quite a few women doctors (in the current field of medical science) but they are working in a medical establishment that is patriarchal:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We [radical feminists] understand patriarchy to be a system of structures and institutions created by men in order to sustain and recreate male power and female subordination. The structures of patriarchy include, but are not limited to, the law, medicine, religion and the traditional family...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;~ Heart, in her &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/01/27/carnival-of-radical-feminist-anti-pornography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;definition of radical feminism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.



&lt;i&gt;I hope you don’t buy into new-age “they had actual magic and the pat killed them ’cause it was JEALOUS” stuff that seems to show up whenever you meet people that take this stuff seriously.&lt;/i&gt;

No, I&#039;m an atheist. I don&#039;t believe in the &quot;supernatural&quot;. As I talked about above, the &#039;witches&#039; were in fact frequently midwives and/or female healers. They were especially good at natural medicine and preparing herbal remedies. They were also pagans and they rejected Christianity. The patriarchal Church hated them as women and as heretics.

The Burning Times documentary posted above explains more about what happened.

&lt;i&gt;this was a good post. . . I kinda like you. You’re fun.&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t know, some of them have merit. Medical science has been pretty nice to us recently.</i></p>
<p>Sorry, Sadi, while it is important to have somewhere to go when we&#8217;re ill, it is important to not forget that:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We have not been passive bystanders in the history of medicine. The present system was born in and shaped by the competition between male and female healers. The medical profession in particular is not just another institution which happens to discriminate against us: it is a fortress designed and erected to exclude us. This means to us that the sexism of the health system is not incidental, not just the reflection of the sexism of society in general or the sexism of individual doctors. It is historically older than medical science itself; it is deep-rooted, institutional sexism. . . Men maintain their power in the health system through their monopoly of scientific knowledge.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>~ Barbara Ehrenreich &amp; Deirdre English, in <i>Witches, Midwives and Nurses: A History of Women Healers</i></p>
<p>Women have always been healers, and medicine has always been an arena of struggle between female lay practitioners and male professionals. Ehrenreich &amp; English&#8217;s book (I just quoted from) explores two important phases in the male takeover of health care: the suppression of &#8216;witches&#8217; in medieval Europe and the rise of the male medical profession in the Western world.</p>
<p>There are quite a few women doctors (in the current field of medical science) but they are working in a medical establishment that is patriarchal:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We [radical feminists] understand patriarchy to be a system of structures and institutions created by men in order to sustain and recreate male power and female subordination. The structures of patriarchy include, but are not limited to, the law, medicine, religion and the traditional family&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>~ Heart, in her <b><a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/01/27/carnival-of-radical-feminist-anti-pornography/" rel="nofollow">definition of radical feminism</a></b>.</p>
<p><i>I hope you don’t buy into new-age “they had actual magic and the pat killed them ’cause it was JEALOUS” stuff that seems to show up whenever you meet people that take this stuff seriously.</i></p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m an atheist. I don&#8217;t believe in the &#8220;supernatural&#8221;. As I talked about above, the &#8216;witches&#8217; were in fact frequently midwives and/or female healers. They were especially good at natural medicine and preparing herbal remedies. They were also pagans and they rejected Christianity. The patriarchal Church hated them as women and as heretics.</p>
<p>The Burning Times documentary posted above explains more about what happened.</p>
<p><i>this was a good post. . . I kinda like you. You’re fun.</i></p>
<p>Thank you. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sadinotna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sadinotna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most spoken languages were invented by patriarchy, and women’s libbers want to obey no edict or rule (incl. spelling rules) given by the male-supremacist system.&quot;

I don&#039;t know, some of them have merit. Medical science has been pretty nice to us recently.


Aside from that, this was a good post. I hope you don&#039;t buy into new-age &quot;they had actual magic and the pat killed them &#039;cause it was JEALOUS&quot; stuff that seems to show up whenever you meet people that take this stuff seriously. I kinda like you. You&#039;re fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most spoken languages were invented by patriarchy, and women’s libbers want to obey no edict or rule (incl. spelling rules) given by the male-supremacist system.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, some of them have merit. Medical science has been pretty nice to us recently.</p>
<p>Aside from that, this was a good post. I hope you don&#8217;t buy into new-age &#8220;they had actual magic and the pat killed them &#8217;cause it was JEALOUS&#8221; stuff that seems to show up whenever you meet people that take this stuff seriously. I kinda like you. You&#8217;re fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, Helzeph! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Helzeph! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: helzeph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[helzeph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go you Maggie. Men have completely altered language to suit themselves and marginalize women. If you ask me the whole thing needs reinventing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go you Maggie. Men have completely altered language to suit themselves and marginalize women. If you ask me the whole thing needs reinventing.</p>
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